No, it's not about Max. And it isn't about your decisions in the way you just described. Thought about speaking to you about it and try to understand better, but... changed my mind before I called you. So if some of that bias was left behind... sorry. I also didn't want to hide it.
[ Vincent's expression isn't one to change. His tone is quiet and still professional sounding, but he puts a little emphasis in, as though trying to drive home his meaning. ]
Called you here because you are the only one I know that has the training and qualifications. To work on what can be done to address the assumptions that nothing gets done. That everyone needs to be on their own. Or take punishment in their own hands. I don't expect people to ever trust the Admiral. But I also think the extremes people are going to avoid understanding him. Or trusting each other are doing more harm than good for a lot of people trying to move forward.
[ The red cloaked man glances at the door to his cabin. ]
If that's not enough to convince you, I understand. In the future if I reach out, I'll be more clear about my intentions.
That's a systemic issue, not something that one person can do.
Trust is involved and trust is a resource that is severely lacking, even with wardens. Especially with wardens. We are all protective of our charges and the other charges and we all want to do what's right.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to agree that we are all on the same side of the issue. The enemy is not within us.
Hrmph. [ Sheehan earns a snort that's a mix of humor and perhaps mild frustration. ] That's why I'm trying to find others to work together on addressing it.
[ It's not that he's reaching out to the doctor to hold him accountable to fixing the problem. Vincent himself is interested in doing something. But on the other hand, trying to find people who won't brush him off as though he were on a fool's errand...? ]
...Or at least talk to someone who can give good advice on where to begin.
Mm. [ Vincent makes a noise of agreement. But he also looks like he relaxes a bit now that Sheehan is clearly showing signs he's not ready to bolt out the door. ] Even if it's limited to cooperating when there's overlap and increasing communication, it'd be a start.
[ Heck, even making more use of the inmate ledger would be moving in a favorable direction. He focuses a mild look on his guest. ]
Do you think it's better to find a small group at first, just as a study to prove how effective it is? Or would that cause too much friction?
[ Frankly, Vincent isn't even sure how the named people are going to react. ]
Got any ideas on how to loop some inmates not assigned to those wardens in? Or do you think it's better to begin with the wardens first?
[ It's not that Vincent isn't willing. But goodness knows it's probably not going to be easy to work in unassigned volunteers for an group study to determine what will work in the first place. ]
I can either come up with a basic outline of what the trial entails. Cooperation, communication and... maybe finding a compromise for different philosophies?" It's partial musing. "Or... I can message the wardens we discussed and open the floor to what it should involve."
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[ And so he hadn't. ]
No, it's not about Max. And it isn't about your decisions in the way you just described. Thought about speaking to you about it and try to understand better, but... changed my mind before I called you. So if some of that bias was left behind... sorry. I also didn't want to hide it.
[ Vincent's expression isn't one to change. His tone is quiet and still professional sounding, but he puts a little emphasis in, as though trying to drive home his meaning. ]
Called you here because you are the only one I know that has the training and qualifications. To work on what can be done to address the assumptions that nothing gets done. That everyone needs to be on their own. Or take punishment in their own hands. I don't expect people to ever trust the Admiral. But I also think the extremes people are going to avoid understanding him. Or trusting each other are doing more harm than good for a lot of people trying to move forward.
[ The red cloaked man glances at the door to his cabin. ]
If that's not enough to convince you, I understand. In the future if I reach out, I'll be more clear about my intentions.
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That's a systemic issue, not something that one person can do.
Trust is involved and trust is a resource that is severely lacking, even with wardens. Especially with wardens. We are all protective of our charges and the other charges and we all want to do what's right.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to agree that we are all on the same side of the issue. The enemy is not within us.
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[ It's not that he's reaching out to the doctor to hold him accountable to fixing the problem. Vincent himself is interested in doing something. But on the other hand, trying to find people who won't brush him off as though he were on a fool's errand...? ]
...Or at least talk to someone who can give good advice on where to begin.
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[He isn't in such a hurry to leave now, but he still pauses.]
To begin, we'd need to find people who actually see the issue as it is.
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[ Heck, even making more use of the inmate ledger would be moving in a favorable direction. He focuses a mild look on his guest. ]
Do you think it's better to find a small group at first, just as a study to prove how effective it is? Or would that cause too much friction?
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[He spreads out his hands.]
Who else?
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Aerith, Zack. Most of the Infirmary wardens.
[ He's come to know them pretty well. ]
I think Saga would be interested. Jesus.
[ There's another pause. ]
I feel some of the inmates would be interested in being involved to provide feedback. Instead of just thrusting it on them.
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[He likes everyone on that list.]
So now we have to extend it to them.
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[ Shorthand for 'should it be made an announcement on the warden filter for others who might want to try' or keep it small?
Well, then there's the inmates, but that can be figured once they see how many wardens are interested. ]
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I don't want to kill thos thing before it's even off the ground.
[Sheehan is so tired of the infighting and the getting nowhere.]
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[ Frankly, Vincent isn't even sure how the named people are going to react. ]
Got any ideas on how to loop some inmates not assigned to those wardens in? Or do you think it's better to begin with the wardens first?
[ It's not that Vincent isn't willing. But goodness knows it's probably not going to be easy to work in unassigned volunteers for an group study to determine what will work in the first place. ]
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Let's get our shit together first like this.
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[ Vincent pauses to think for a few moments. ]
I can either come up with a basic outline of what the trial entails. Cooperation, communication and... maybe finding a compromise for different philosophies?" It's partial musing. "Or... I can message the wardens we discussed and open the floor to what it should involve."
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I want all ideas. I don't want it to seem like we're pushing anything on them.
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[ He remembers who Sheehan said. But if there were any he missed? ]
I think we can end our meeting on this note. Unless there's anything else that's worth mentioning.
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I look forward to it. I'll send you the list.
[And he'll give him a nod of his head before he leaves.]